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Part 2

I am so very sorry to read your latest messages and to see how unhappy you are over your dentures. Of course, though it would be lovely to read only positive, cheerful success stories, everyone has different experiences and this site is all about being truthful and for every 100 or so success stories there are probably going to be one or two similar to yours. Statistically if every single person on this site posted a complete success story it would seem a bit fishy.
I can completely understand that if you are in pain, and you obviously are with the sore spots where the denture is rubbing, everything else becomes heightened and even the smallest thing becomes a drama.
As you know, I have been extremely lucky with absolutely no problems, except now, but that is 9 months+ down the line and I will have my new perms on 19th June. My problems now only because lower denture loose and fixative only keeps it in for about 3 hours at the most comfortably before I have to re-apply. So, though my pain is nothing like yours, I can understand to some extent.
It does seem, and your dentist more or less confirmed this, that your first denture was not as good a fit as it could have been. But, however good the dentist is with his impressions, and the denture maker in making the denture from those impressions is, it is really guesswork because impressions are taken from your teeth as they were. As soon as they are extracted, things have changed. To begin with your mouth is swollen from the extractions and then the gum starts to shrink so really it is an absolute miracle if the denture continues to fit perfectly. I think where your denture maker went wrong was in not anticipating some of the shrinkage so the denture would fit well for a while after the initial swelling had gone and your gums started the natural shrinking process. Your dentist should have been more accommodating in filing down, the acrylic (pink) part of the denture, of relining etc to make the first denture more comfortable. So I think he is definitely at fault there. I am wondering though, although he started the process of creating another denture for you, perhaps he is thinking this was too early on because your mouth still has an awful lot of changing to do and at this early stage, a new denture would still not fit tightly in a few weeks and need alterations and reliners.
I think what you really need to do is to make an appointment with him for a calm, face to fact talk and iron everything out and get an extensive written plan of exactly what he is going to do now for you and whether this second denture is still going to be classed as an immediate in replacement of the original and that he will still, when your gum has settled in a few more months, make the perfect permanent for you.
I do hope things get sorted and though I know it is difficlt, you must try and think more positively and believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel.:grouphug:
 
Thank you scardstiff....if he is stauling because he thinks it is too soon then he should be honest and tell me that you know.....but I don't think thats it.He was never supposed to make another denture and I think he is holding a grudge about that.Its really hard to say what his problem is.

I was looking in the mirror this morning at the roof of mouth and there is a bump(about size of US quarter...thats big)but there are more sharp white things coming to the surface.It's tripping me out.Figures that MY mouth has all this wierd stuff going on.:mad:

I might take your suggestion and try to halv a talk with him...all-though I have tried and it gets me no-where.I should have researched dentists better.
I should have ..would have........could have.
I read some reviews from him yesterday and they we're all bad.Boy do i feels stupied.

I am hoping I get the new one soon at least that way I can have some sort of improvment and be done with this guy.:(
I am trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel but today it is looking pretty dark still.
Thank you so much for the support and comfort on this forum.
 
Hi Mary, maybe repost this picture in the Dentistry Questions section in your thread addressed to Zzz? They do look decidedly off to me :(. I'm just wondering if your dentist is reluctant to make another one because he doesn't have the skills to make it right :confused:. The bad reviews of him make me think that this might be the case. Making well-fitting dentures isn't an easy task and quite a few dentists don't make them because they're not very successful at it. Prosthodontists and, in some US states (and in the whole of Canada), licensed denturists specialise in this field (although there are also many general dentists who are good and experienced with dentures).
If the problem is lack of skill, it may not be worth persevering with this dentist...
 
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Thanks Letsconnect.
I posted the pic in the other thread.
I thought that too.maybe he doesen't know how to make dentures But he won't give me my money back.
There is something really shady about this cat.:(
 
If someone more experienced than me could confirm that the denture really is very off, maybe you could write a letter to the dentist stating your complaints. You could ask for your money back (obviously not for the extractions, but the money for the actual denture) to get a new denture made, and threaten lodging a complaint with your state dental board and/or legal action?
However, before you take this step, you should be pretty sure that the denture is unacceptable by professional standards, and I'm not an expert... it may well be that the next denture he makes is perfectly acceptable, for all I know. I'm just thinking out loud here about all the possiblities.
 
Mary,
Every one has given you such good advice. I like SS's idea about having an appointment and trying to get a clear outline of what the dentist is willing to do to get you comfortable and how long this will take. Did you have an original treatment plan printed and given to you before you started treatment?
It seems to me that your dentist knows that the first denture is not wearable as he has gone along with new impressions and a wax model. Why now is he not having the new denture made?
As a patient, I think you have the right to an answer. Did he ever say that you would have to pay more for the new denture?
I am sorry that you are having these problems especially since your recent trauma with your daughter.
I like Scared Stiff have not had too many problems with my dentures; and when I did my dentist was great about working with me in a pretty timely manner.
Hope you can get this resolved soon.
 
Thank You everyone.
I am just so tired ....No matter what I say to this guy he isen't listening.
I called this morning to see if I could come in and talk and he said(heres a suprise)"I am leaving the office for an emergency I won't be back till next week"

So I posted a pic on the dentistry qestions and I am waiting to see what a dentist thinks....I will make a complaint if I have too.
I just want to smile thats all.

Thanks again everyone.I might post later to vent some more.
 
Mary
PM your pic to Gordon, he will give you a non-public honest answer with no worries about professional niceties although I did find ZZZ's explanation about the ridge issue quite convincing but I know nothing about the subject and I don't like to think of your being taken advantage of.
Cheers :grouphug:
Brit

PS This website really is non-commercial and our dentists do not kowtow to each other as you may have noticed.
 
Thanks Brit..I have a stupied ???? how do u pm a pic///I couldent figure it out.
 
Hi Mary, you can't send attachments via PM - an alternative would be to simply give the link to the thread or post where you posted the picture, or else upload the picture onto a free image hosting site such as photobucket.com or imageshack.us :)
 
Thank you Lets.
I think I will just tell him the thread it in.
Thanks again.
 
Well iots monday and I tried to call my dentist because now my mouth is all swollen and they coulden't see me today or this week for that matter.

so I threatened to make a complaint against him and the reciponist hung up.
Nice work ethic.
Now they have been trying to call me back but I haven't answered(I am making them swet;D)

I WILL CALL THEM BACK LATER AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
Should be intresting.
the hole thing is reallyu irritating.
can't wait till its over.:shame:
 
I just had to vent....I am so upset about this hole dentist thing.
Tomorrow I am making a fiew calls to have this guy investigagted.
I hate to do that but he is leaving me no other choice.
I diden't go through all this to be treated like this.
not writing much just keeping track so hopefully soon I can look back at this and say "man I am glad thats over"

By the way....I like the new smileys.:giggle::whistle::oops:
 
Did you not ring the dentist back Mary to see what he had to say? I can quite understand how you are feeling but try not to get yourself in a position where he refuses to treat you and you have to go to another dentist and pay for another immediate denture. I would try to keep your cool - difficult I kow in the circumstances - but see if you can get in to see him and ask whether the new denture is going to be ready soon. In other words, try and keep him sweet so you can get your denture before too much is said and you're up the creek without a paddle so to speak
 
I just had to vent....I am so upset about this hole dentist thing.
Tomorrow I am making a fiew calls to have this guy investigagted.
I hate to do that but he is leaving me no other choice.
I diden't go through all this to be treated like this.
not writing much just keeping track so hopefully soon I can look back at this and say "man I am glad thats over"

By the way....I like the new smileys.:giggle::whistle::oops:

Yes he seems to be behaving more like a cowboy builder than a professional dentist....at least your extractions went well though...it was all looking so good.
He may (wrongly) have you down as the type who wouldn't go through the official channels with a complaint...the trouble is complaining makes it hard for you to then accept treatment from him. Interesting what you said about the online reviews you found after the event.
 
The last 3 times I have called him and he is either out of town or busy(it feels like what I have a friend say when my x calls:giggle:)

I actually have yet to be really rude to this guy...I really am getting to the point though.
I just don't understand what happened....he was nice up until I came in with my first sore spot:cry:.
I know I haven't been mean...after he pulled the first teeth I got him and everyone that works in his office a star-Bucks gift card to say thank you for being so nice and patient with me.(if he doesen't like coffe...they have other stuff)
I am going in friday with my dad...I'm not even calling to see if he can see me...I am just going to crash the dentist party and see what is going on.
He allready did impressions for the knew denture so what gives.

I was talking to my dad and he thinks the dentist is mad because he has to make a new denture cause the one I have is huge(really big)and ok I am sorry that he has to do that but maybe he should have been more careful the first time around cause this isen't any fun for me either.Every time I walk in that office I het so nervouse it feels like I am going to throw up:sick:and the fact he has a stick up his bum doesen't help.
My dad says that I have to stay strong and in the end it will all work out and I know that but in the mean time its super hard cause it took every ounce of courage I had(and a bunch from you guys:XXLhug:)to even do this.

When this is over I am so never going back to him....but then again I can;t let it scare me into my dentist free zone either or else I will loose all my bottoms(and I don't want that)
This dental fear sucks and I feel more scarde of the hole idea again.

On a positive not...I haven't been able to let anyone really look at me with my teeth out and today I checked the mail and left the grill inside.:jump:That's growth for me.
If and when I get the knew ones I am going to be so happy I guess I just have to keep doing what I'm doing to get where I need to be.(that made sence right?:()

Thanks Brit and SS(and everyone)for all your support.Not sure I would still be going strong if it wasen't for this forum.
Oh and SS I won't be rude..".I will kill him with kindness"as the saying goes.
 
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Well its wednesday and I just came to my journal to scream out loud.
I tried to call again today and no-one answered.(Maybe they have caller ID:ROFLMAO:)
Well My dad is coming tomorrow and we are going into his office on friday.
Don't worry I will be nice....unless of course they are so rude I can't handle it.:meanie:
 
Hope things go well tomorrow, having your Dad with you may make your dentist more civil; let's hope so.
Good luck!
 
:cry:Ok I am so upset right now I seriosly want to crawl in bed and stay there.
So after I posted today my dentist office called:)and said to come in as soon as I could because the wax try in was there.So I got all ahppy and thought ok maybe this is turning around you know>

So I get there and wait an hour befor they call me in and he says"How is your denture /Do you have any sore spots?'and i said yes my hole mouth is sore and he said"Well it looks like there serving their purpose"and I said"what do you mean"and he said "well you have gotton much bigger so eating obviosly isen't an issue":(I was in shock.I wish my dad was here allready.then he told me to sit down.I was shaking and in tears(I have really low self asteem as it is)after the try in I coulden't really speak...hard to explain why>

I just wanted to get out of there(keep in mind I was still trying to be nice SS)so then he says "I want to start work on your bottom teeth befor u loose those too..."
I nicley said I diden't think I would be coming back to him then he said absoultly nothing and left the room.I grabbed my teeth(which we're still on the tray)and walked out.
I have been crying since I got home.The last thing I want to do is eat(really want some fruit loops):ROFLMAO:

So do I still have to be nice or can I tell this guy to kiss my ass.i DON'T THINK i AM GAINING WEIGHT.I am 5:9 and 155 pounds.I have gained a little but what a jerk.
I can't stop crying.I just want to wake up from this nightmare.

I am not saying that going to the dentist is a nightmare I am saying I have a horriable dentist who pretended to be nice.:cry::(


OK well I was going to make a different post but just decided to add on.
I am so done....I can't handle this crap right now...he was so nice when he was pulling my teeth so what happened.
On a happy note my daughter is doing good.Her little sister was trying to color on her cast with crayons.Very cute.
Just wanted to say thanks for letting me vent.There is no where else to go for me.
 
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Just replied in your dentistry questions thread about the wax in, before I saw this posting Mary. My goodness, don't really know what to say. I previously was just worried that because off this bad stuff with the dentist was happening that you might get really upset (as you have a right) and do the sort of thing I might do and tend to storm out and tell him to go to hell which would be lovely but of course leave you without your new denture. Anyhow, good that you've had the try in, but when do you actually get the denture? Because again, you've been very good, holding your temper but what I would do is get the denture, then let rip at the dentist it will make you feel better, and find yourself another one pretty pronto.
 
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