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My Story regarding a long lasting root canal failure and severe tooth pain lonnggggg post!!

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komet

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My Story regarding a long lasting root canal failure and severe tooth pain lonnggggg post!!

Hi everyone,

I usually don't ever post on forums but these dental issues I had and how I overcame them were extremely traumatic to me and I wanted to tell someone else to maybe help them through it if they find themselves looking at sites like this when you are having dental issues.

Dental pain is the worst pain in the world. It is relentless, upsets your entire life and mood and sleep and really can make you depressed and anxious. Not to mention your physical health with all the pain pills you end up taking just to get a bit of relief from the pain and what they might do to your body right? What I went through was horrible and I hope this story may help you if you are in the same place I was over the last bunch of years. I have been dealing with a really bad dental issue! It does have a happy ending though! :) Keep reading :)

It all started when I had 2 lower left molar root canals done over a period of six months about 5 years ago. The last two molars before the wisdom teeth. My wisdom teeth (all 4) were pulled when i was young and i really didn't have any abnormal pain from the removal at all. I remember being a little worried about it (mostly because of all the horror stories you hear) but they put me under general anesthesia in the hospital and my dental surgeon was a great surgeon i guess because the whole thing was uneventful really. I was sore for a couple of days and had quite a bit of bleeding at the start but that is about it. I am a long time smoker and have never had a dry socket or anything from any of my extractions including my wisdom teeth. Don't think I would want to feel what that pain is like with dry socket that is for sure!! If you are going through that I send quick healing hopes to you. It will get better, it always does you just have to tough it out and soldier on but you will heal and find releif i know you will! On with my story.

About two years after the root canals were all finished i went to my dentist for a cleaning. He took x rays and said that one of the molars was not healing properly. There was a dark spot under the tooth in the X-ray. He said it might just be taking a long time to heal and we will keep an eye on it. At this time I had no pain at all in the tooth or jaw.

When I went back to my dentist for another cleaning he checked it again and it had not healed at all since the last visit. Even though I had no pain he sent me to a endontist to get a specialists opinion. The endontist ended up redoing the root canal in the second molar. About 6 months after he did it and after spending 1000 bucks for him to redo it, it was still not healing and it started flaring up (causing me pain) from time to time. When the pain would come I couldn't pin point what tooth was causing it it was just in that area. The two back molar teeth were dead from root canals anyways so I couldn't feel anything during tap tests cold tests etc. I would describe the pain as a deep pain in my jaw but running up the side of my face almost to my ear. I always thought to myself it was a low grade infection that would flare up when i got run down or sick. It would get very painful and the whole left side of my lower jaw up to my ear hurt with moderate pain in the day that advil easily controlled that got way worse at night with throbbing, keeping you up, bang your head against the wall, rocking back and forth, eating ice, ice pack pain a horse tranquilizer can't touch!! If your in that now you know what i'm saying absolutely horrible make you go crazy pain!. I had no swelling at all anywhere but my lymph nodes under my jaw would hurt a bit and be tender and i perceived a bit of a weird taste in my mouth from time to time during the flare ups. After a week or two it would go away on it's own. Very weird because dental pain generally doesn't go away on its own at least not from an infection so they say. A couple of times i took antibiotics and they helped it heal faster. Instead of a week or two of pain i would only have a few days after the antibiotics kicked in. Which led me to believe it was an infection.

It flared up at xmas of course one year. I couldn't get to see the endontist until he got back from xmas holidays. I waited in extreme pain for days to go see him and it pretty much ruined my entire xmas that year. After xmas i went back to see him in a lot of pain. He examined the tooth and redid the root canal again. The third time but it was free at least that time. He adjusted my bite a bit too thinking it was maybe a bite thing. i do have TMJ and Bruxism as well which i'm sure weren't helping the dental issues I was having.

I was ok for awhile then i would get the flare ups again. I went back to the endontist for another check and he thought it might be the large molar instead of the other tooth so he redid the root canal on that tooth. Pain still didn't go away for good. Then when I went back he thought the pain might be coming from the small molar in front of it the smallest molar and that had not had a root canal yet. He did a root canal on that one for 1000 dollars and when i came off the freezing the tooth hurt like hell. The pain subsided over the next month but i kept coming back to see him with pain. It was really frustrating. It would just not go away. I mean it would for a couple of months and then out of the blue it would start to hurt more and more until i was in abscess type pain. After 10 days or so it would go away on it's own. It seemed hopeless like no one could help me. I was losing faith big time in dentists and suffering a lot in silence as well.

I went for special 3d X-rays at 400 bucks a pop and no dentist or endontist seemed to know what was causing my pain. The filling of the new root canal on my small molar was sticking out the bottom of my tooth but my endontist said it would not effect anything. My regular dentist started saying maybe it was phantom pain or pain from TMJ or from grinding which is definitely possible but I still felt they were wrong. I was sure it was an infection (swollen glands, taste in mouth, pressure pain deep in jaw). I went for second opinions at other specialists and they couldn't clearly see anything wrong other than bone not healing in that area or they said it could be scarred bone tissue etc etc etc add nauseam and thousands of dollars. I knew I was not crazy and that the pain was real and it all started from those root canals at the back of my left lower jaw. I always thought to myself it was from an infection, but the dentists didn't agree with me or at least couldn't diagnose which tooth was causing me problems or if it was even a tooth at all!! unbelievably frustrating!!!

I went back to my endontist in pain once again and he said there was one way to be sure those teeth would not bother me anymore and that was to have an apiocotemy i think it is called. That's where they get under the gums and cut the tips of the teeth off to clean up the roots. I don't know what I was thinking at the time but i went ahead and tried that. Obviously, I really wanted to keep my natural teeth if at all possible and it was still cheaper than an implant! The dentists always said that too to me over and over, "its better to keep your real teeth!!" I heard that many times. I think that is like the slogan for dentistry until they become implant specialists :) Well that was another thousand and after i healed (i was numb on my cheek for 3 months until I got all my feeling back nerve touched during procedure i guess). After I healed from that i still had pain flare ups and still none could tell me why other than taking guesses. At that point I was sick of dentists. I just thought I have done everything i can to save my teeth and i guess i will just have to live with the flareups for the rest of my life :(

After some more time and plenty of suffering from time to time the pain flare ups drove me crazy and i just went to the dentist and said PULL THEM I CAN'T TAKE THE PAIN ANYMORE!!!! So I asked my regular dentist to pull the big molar. That healed quickly and fine and still the pain came back in a few months. I told him pull the next one when the pain came back. He pulled the next one. That healed fine and quickly and I had no pain for two years. I thought finally "I'm over this!!" Nope just a few weeks ago after a trip to Vegas my pain came back in a excruciating way. Of course my dentist was on a extended 5 day remembrance day holiday. After 4 days of waiting in hell to see him, going to emergency twice to get morphine because the pain was so bad. The pain got way worse at night and especially when i laid down. I couldn't sleep, eat, or function at all and i started swallowing everything i could to get relief including advil like smarties, t3's, sleeping pills and taking antibiotics again for the third or fourth time over the 5 years, which had no effect at all this time. I told him I want the tooth pulled. He wanted to send me to a different endontist again and I said no PULL THE TOOTH!!!! No more merry go rounds :) I was and am done with root canals and specialists.

He did pull it. Of all the extractions i have had that tooth was the mother lode!!! When I came off the freezing I was in a different kind of excruciating pain. It was not the same as how it felt before I had it pulled but it was just as bad if not worse. I started panicking at this point as I had been expecting the pain to be moderate after a extraction just like every other extraction I had had in my life. I think we finally hit the nail on the head. That was the tooth that was causing most of my pain. I don't know why but since that tooth had given me so much pain three years ago after the root canal I just knew it was a dead rotten tooth that needed to get taken out of my mouth! I believed that the root canal was harbouring bacteria under the tooth and in my jaw. Not enough to swell up like a balloon but enough that my body was telling me it had to go!! I just had this feeling that it was that one all along. I think the other two that were treated with root canals caused me problems too but the main was was the smallest molar.

Its been over 2 weeks later and I am pretty much completely healed with almost no pain but it did take over 2 full weeks to heal which is very long. As i said i had bigger molars pulled with very little pain or complications at all, that healed in a few days. The first week after they pulled that little bastard was excruciating!! the week before it was pulled it was excruciating. Have never had pain like that in my life. I hope I never have to go through that again. If you are on here reading cause you can't sleep are wondering when the terrible pain will stop well I can tell you get the tooth seen / pulled or root canal treatment by a dentist asap. If the dentist can't find the problem see a different one. If they can't find the problem or help you trust your instincts. It is our bodies after all and who knows better than the person feeling the pain!!! I think my case is a rare one and although i know my teeth will slowly be leaving me one by one (I'm 50 this year) i hope I am over the worst. it has been a very long road with those teeth and i'm glad its over. Good riddance!! I'm way better off without them. Going for partial plate no implants for me.

I guess I have learned don't trust your dentists. Trust yourself. I mean dentist will try to help you and many times do help and there are a lot of good caring dentists. I think it would be a awful job to have a patient like me that you want to help but just can't. It could also just be they wanted to make as much money off of me and my pain and teeth as they could. It is hard to tell sometimes and you start second guessing their intentions when dental work goes wrong. I don't have dental insurance so it gets really expensive you know? I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but needless to say I am very frustrated with my dentists. I will be hiring a new dentist carefully for any other work i need moving forward. Preferably somewhere thats open extended hours and weekends as that is always when the pain is the worst WHEN THE DENTIST IS CLOSED :) I also learned getting a tooth pulled is not a big deal. It causes a bit of mild pain for a couple of days usually but if you let things get worse you stand a good chance of dealing with more pain than just having the tooth pulled or fixed or whatever. From now on if a tooth is not fixable from a cavity no more root canals for me PULL IT is what I will say.

I always thought it was that little molar that was causing me all those problems. I think all three of those root canals failed in some way or another and that is why I got into this horrible predicament. Looking back, i wished I just got them all pulled in the first place. I would have saved myself a lot of grief and pain and money. Needless to say, I don't trust root canals. I think there is a lot more problems caused by them than are cured by them. But that is just my opinion from my experiences with them. It may be entirely different for you.

Good luck to you with whatever you are going through that is bringing you to read these posts. They did help me very much. I found a post about a guy who had multiple root canals on a tooth then had it pulled and it was sore for a month so It gave me hope it would eventually get better which it has. Dental pain is the worst most frustrating pain a person can endure. Then after suffering you get to pay a bunch of hard earned money to suffer some more! I mean life isn't fair is it? Good luck to you all.

Cheers,

Komet
 
Dr. Daniel

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Re: My Story regarding a long lasting root canal failure and severe tooth pain lonnggggg post!!

Hi Komet,

thank you you so much for sharing your story.Your description and conclusion sound very true and understandable. It is indeed a rare case and can happen to any dentist. Your dentists "earned" you distrust because they caused more pain than relieve. They should extracted the tooth my sooner. They should have also listen to you. I also use this message "your real teeth are the best option" but somtimes an extraction is better.
Your dentstists are biased in two ways:
Many dentists are doers, want to do, treat, perform surgery. This can lead to over-treatment. There was no reason to touch the tooth n the first place. This tendency might be motivated by the urge to increase the practice's turn-over. Having said that, it is extremely important to be conservative when it comes to teeth, meaning treating and changing the teeth to the minimum.
Second bias:not admitting being wrong. Ego certainly plays a role. Dentists are only human. I am also biased from time to time.
I wish you will find "your dentist" in the future who will restore your trust in dentists.

Cheers,
Dr. Daniel
 
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Re: My Story regarding a long lasting root canal failure and severe tooth pain lonnggggg post!!

Komet -- we need to talk!! I can't write now, but will post more in the next day or two. For crying out loud, you've been thru the ringer and I'm honestly a bit angry at your dental providers for milking you and putting you thru that ridiculous treatment plan,after doing several procedures and STILL not having a clue which tooth needed treatment. That's just outrageous!! Also, consider nerve damage. Seriously, sounds like you might have had or have it.
 
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I know this an old post but it really strikes a chord with me,long story short had a top wisdom tooth removed on Friday,extraction was fine,but now bottom molar with a huge filling is killing me,dentist said he thinks the tooth is dying on the Friday I got my wisdom tooth out,now the thing is he gave me a choice of which one to pull which I thought was strange so I went wisdom tooth,now why didn’t he pull the two of them if he thought the bottom tooth was dying ???its now Saturday night and I feel like screaming this pain is unbearable and no painkillers are working plus there is no dentist open😡😡😡got an emergency appointment 2moro but I know I’m up all night tonight that’s for sure,
 
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