Really unusual and scary problem, please help

[pharaohsketches]

I'm having a very strange problem that is difficult to even describe. On the floor of my mouth, under my gums is bright red and very tender. I want to point out I am regularly going to the dentist right now and my problems are not severe. I am working through them slowly but surely and regularly go. So yesterday I woke up and this part of my mouth was uncomfortable, tender, slick to touch with my tongue and sort of tastes of blood or something salty. I've been known to get some very strange mouth problems when my seasonal allergies are popping up that disappear within a few days. I'm hoping this is that but it looks alarming and it is uncomfortable. I'm attaching a photo, I'm having a lot of anxiety even posting as I'm thinking the worst. I have a dental appointment in a week and a half anyway for a temporary crown but my fears are at a maximum today. Thank you, any ideas of what this could be are great. It might be worth noting I also have a weak immune system.

 

[pharaohsketches]

Also to add a question, one of my medications can cause B12 deficiency... could this be related? I've developed a scalloped tongue this year as well

 

[MountainMama]

I don't have an answer, but just wanted to say that I hope someone can help you. Have you gone to your general doctor? I had a similar feeling/look in the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago. Turns out it was a delayed reaction to an antibiotic I had finished the previous week. I also developed blisters on my lips that were really painful.

 

[pharaohsketches]

I don't have an answer, but just wanted to say that I hope someone can help you. Have you gone to your general doctor? I had a similar feeling/look in the roof of my mouth a few weeks ago. Turns out it was a delayed reaction to an antibiotic I had finished the previous week. I also developed blisters on my lips that were really painful.

Thank you for answering. I really am thinking it's an issue with B12, one of my medications definitely causes a deficiency. I was reading up on some of the symptoms you can have and this sounds like it. It's a little better as I type thankfully.

 

[Ayeemonaee973]

I hope you find the answer you need friend !

 

[pharaohsketches]

There is now a large white area underneath the red, and it looks identical to photos I've seen of Leukaplatia. I'm out of my head scared.

 

[pharaohsketches]

I posted about having a red area under my gums, near the floor of my mouth. This area is much worse today. White PAINFUL ridges have appeared under the red area. It feels like a giant ulcer. It looks like Leukoplakia but surely that doesnt just pop up? This happened mid day today. There are pins and needles pains under my tongue and in the glands under my jaw. Benadryl isnt helping. Please please give advice.

 

[Gordon]

Really hard to tell from a photo. It could be a burn/trauma related, if you're low on B12 your mucosa (the lining material of the mouth) can become quite delicate and easily damaged.
It could be a giant ulcer (major apthous ulcer) which again is linked to low B12/Folic Acid.
All your other symptoms tie in with either of those.
You really need to get a dentist to take a look at it.
Don't get in a panic over leukoplakia, that basically just means a white patch on your mucosa, not necessarily something nasty!

 

[pharaohsketches]

Really hard to tell from a photo. It could be a burn/trauma related, if you're low on B12 your mucosa (the lining material of the mouth) can become quite delicate and easily damaged.
It could be a giant ulcer (major apthous ulcer) which again is linked to low B12/Folic Acid.
All your other symptoms tie in with either of those.
You really need to get a dentist to take a look at it.
Don't get in a panic over leukoplakia, that basically just means a white patch on your mucosa, not necessarily something nasty!

I appreciate this reply so much, thank you. I just didn't even know where to start with this. It's shrunk a bit but it is very painful, it truly feels like a giant ulcer, I didn't even know ulcers of that size existed. I don't think any trauma occured, but I tend to start getting bad mouth stuff when I'm suffering seasonal allergies. I most likely have terrible B12 levels, I've been on a proton pump inhibitor long term now. About a year. I have a dental appointment in a week, I'm debating seeing if they can squeeze me in for a quick check on this.

 

[Gordon]

Seen melted cheese from a pizza do this on a vulnerable elderly lady.
Do you have access to stuff called Difflam? (Benzydamine Hydrochloride), it's available at a pharmacy here in UK and most of Europe. That might ease your symptoms a bit. Comes as a mouthwash or a spray.
Stress always makes these things worse, so try to chill out about it a bit!

 

[MountainMama]

If you can't find any OTC stuff, see if your dentist can squeeze you in, or even call your doctor. They can prescribe you "magic mouthwash", which has a mix of stuff that helps with pain and symptoms. My doctor actually prescribed it for me, as my dentist is closed on Fridays, when my symptoms got bad. That stuff works wonders! They also gave me a dental paste, that you put on any ulcerated areas, and it is almost instant relief.

 

[pharaohsketches]

Thank you both, the dentist scared me a bit by agreeing it presents like cancer. Well, more than a bit. She actually did prescribe magic mouthwash, so far though it just numbed my lips and the spot still hurts really bad. Wish I had the paste as well! Basically it could be a million things and if the mouthwash hasnt improved it ill need a biopsy.

 

[MountainMama]

Thank you both, the dentist scared me a bit by agreeing it presents like cancer. Well, more than a bit. She actually did prescribe magic mouthwash, so far though it just numbed my lips and the spot still hurts really bad. Wish I had the paste as well! Basically it could be a million things and if the mouthwash hasnt improved it ill need a biopsy.

The mouthwash numbs it, and can take a few days to see results. The paste was pretty pricey, but worth it for me, as my lips had blisters that made it nearly impossible to eat or drink. I hope it clears up for you soon!
I thought the oral cancers didn't usually hurt at first? Maybe I am wrong.

 

[pharaohsketches]

The mouthwash numbs it, and can take a few days to see results. The paste was pretty pricey, but worth it for me, as my lips had blisters that made it nearly impossible to eat or drink. I hope it clears up for you soon!
I thought the oral cancers didn't usually hurt at first? Maybe I am wrong.

You're not wrong, that's what makes it odd. It's a wound and has changed shape and size a ton in 2 days. Shrinking and then swelling up from irritations. But she thinks it LOOKS like cancer, and it does honestly :/ plus it's in a high risk spot. It all really has me rattled. I could chew without pain when I woke up though so the mouth wash is working.

 

[MountainMama]

You're not wrong, that's what makes it odd. It's a wound and has changed shape and size a ton in 2 days. Shrinking and then swelling up from irritations. But she thinks it LOOKS like cancer, and it does honestly :/ plus it's in a high risk spot. It all really has me rattled. I could chew without pain when I woke up though so the mouth wash is working.

Scary stuff! I hope it all goes away for you. The fact that there is another explanation (B12) is hopeful, right?

 

[pharaohsketches]

Scary stuff! I hope it all goes away for you. The fact that there is another explanation (B12) is hopeful, right?

well it's shrunk smaller and smaller since the mouthwash, I can't help but think a leukoplakia wouldnt do that? Also i dunno but I didn't think leukoplakia hurt line an ulcer but "mouth wounds" pop up a lot for cancer so I've got myself scared. This is what it looks like today, not really red anymore. the skin rolls off sometimes too, like a normal scab. I'm trying to take all that as a good sign but my gland there is firm and swollen. Sorry rambling, anxiety talking.

 

[Gordon]

There are loads of non-malignant things that this is much more likely to be. You know that saying about hearing hoofbeats and not expecting zebras

Please tell me that your dentist has arranged a review appointment for you soon though?

 

[pharaohsketches]

Thank you Gordan, your replies have meant a lot to me! I had an appointment for Saturday as it was so they are going to check it then. I'm ashamed to smoke, and trying to quit again. I've used it as an anxiety crutch for far too long.

 

[Dr. Daniel]

Thank you for answering. I really am thinking it's an issue with B12, one of my medications definitely causes a deficiency. I was reading up on some of the symptoms you can have and this sounds like it. It's a little better as I type thankfully.

Sounds like a reasonable explanation. If that is he case it Should go away within 3 weeks.