Refused sedation I don’t know what to do nhs

[Jamis070395]

Hi so I’m really extremely phobic of the dentist. It’s down to 3 experiences, two in childhood. 1st was a horrible nasty dentist who refused to treat me and removed me from the books as I couldn’t control my anxiety. 2nd was when I was having a filling as wasn’t numbed properly and as he started drilling I had the most intense pain, took 16 needles to numb me. 3rd) got to utter dicks one after the other. They both had a go due to my small mouth, which is likely due to a huge overbite where my front teeth entirely cover my bottom teeth. This has never been bought to my attention by any dentist and never fixed which is likely why I have tmj disorder. One of the bad ones put in a filling that lasted 5 months, as I didn’t attend a checkup I was removed. He messed up the filling and have two teeth that have fallen apart and can be save so I can’t chew on my right side and need 3 fillings on the other side as well as 2 extracted.

Now I’ve been refused sedation, I’ve had it before but he outright refused due to meds I take. Which I said I can not take for a few days if it interferes with the sedation and I’d be fine and sorted but no he refused that even. I don’t know what to do I really need treatment, in a lot of pain and have panic attacks and pass out at the dentist. What do I do? It’s so horrible. I hate my life and the dentist idiots.

 

[sun fower seeds]

@Jamis070395 You need to talk to Sharon. I did and she straightend me out pretty quick.

You said, "Now I’ve been refused sedation, I’ve had it before but he outright refused due to meds I take. Which I said I can not take for a few days if it interferes with the sedation and I’d be fine and sorted but no he refused that even."

You might need a new dentist, maybe this time a female.

You said, "I don’t know what to do I really need treatment, in a lot of pain and have panic attacks and pass out at the dentist. What do I do? It’s so horrible. I hate my life and the dentist idiots."

My feelings exactly before Sharon replied to my problem.

The pain will perhaps drive you to the answer: Find a new dentist, go for the sedation. I was exactly in your situaiton five minutes ago before Sharon answered my question. That's why I noticed your reaching out for help. It's a tough spot to be in, I know that. If I can do it, you can, with Sharon's help.

Are there any female dentists in your area? Try that and set up an apppointment.

Will you please try? And make that new appointment? I have a clue what you're going through because I'm going through the same thing. We'll show them.

 

[Jamis070395]

@Jamis070395 You need to talk to Sharon. I did and she straightend me out pretty quick.

You said, "Now I’ve been refused sedation, I’ve had it before but he outright refused due to meds I take. Which I said I can not take for a few days if it interferes with the sedation and I’d be fine and sorted but no he refused that even."

You might need a new dentist, maybe this time a female.

You said, "I don’t know what to do I really need treatment, in a lot of pain and have panic attacks and pass out at the dentist. What do I do? It’s so horrible. I hate my life and the dentist idiots."

My feelings exactly before Sharon replied to my problem.

The pain will perhaps drive you to the answer: Find a new dentist, go for the sedation. I was exactly in your situaiton five minutes ago before Sharon answered my question. That's why I noticed your reaching out for help. It's a tough spot to be in, I know that. If I can do it, you can, with Sharon's help.

Are there any female dentists in your area? Try that and set up an apppointment.

Will you please try? And make that new appointment? I have a clue what you're going through because I'm going through the same thing. We'll show them.

The problem is it’s the only detisr in miles so no alternative.

 

[HeatherWasHere]

Is that literally the only dentist anywhere near you at all? As in, you have zero other options? If so, then, well, you are going to have to cope with this one. And the thing is that you really can-- I know you feel like you can't, but you can. You will probably be shaking, sweating, panicking, etc., but a dentist appointment ultimately is only half a day out of your life.

But that's if you truly have no other options. No chance of traveling to another city?

 

[Jamis070395]

@HeatherWasHere nowhere that’s taking new patients. It’s a travesty. The dentist I have managed to get is horrible and aggressive and don’t seem to understand a deep overbite can cause tooth decay like sugar. I clean my teeth 3 time daily and it’s never good enough and always get an ear full about have I don’t brush when I do but all I got was “if you didn’t eat sugar then you wouldn’t have decay”, right and not the fact I get migraines that make me vomit at least twice a week and have acid reflux on a daily basis but no it’s none of those that are causing it. Why would I trust a dentist who failed to spot a hole in my tooth to do a surgical procedure and cut the root out as that’s all that’s left.

 

[Jamis070395]

@HeatherWasHere I’m also unemployed so don’t have much income to spend on a dentist and I’f I did it for everything that needs doing would total over £6,000 and that’s not including the overbite which should have been done when I was you but never got done.

 

[Jamis070395]

Is that literally the only dentist anywhere near you at all? As in, you have zero other options? If so, then, well, you are going to have to cope with this one. And the thing is that you really can-- I know you feel like you can't, but you can. You will probably be shaking, sweating, panicking, etc., but a dentist appointment ultimately is only half a day out of your life.

But that's if you truly have no other options. No chance of traveling to another city?

My only option is NHS care and nothing else. The twenty mile radius includes 2 cities, with not one dental practice accepting new patients. And to hey sedation you need a referral which can take many months while you suffer.

 

[sun fower seeds]

Can you go to "go-fund-me" where you could possibly get some funding?

Can you go to the emergency room to get help with your tooth pain?

Can you go to a regular doctor who might be able to help you with your anxiety, etc.?

If you can get on a regular, long term medicine basis, it will probably help you calm down so you can think better about other problems. Do you have a regular doctor?

I'm bipolar and if it wasn't for medicine (lithium, mirtazapine, etc.) I couldn't think at all.
If you could get the right diagnosis and then the right long term medicine, it could really help you think about other problems, also.

 

[Jamis070395]

@sun fower seeds

If it weren’t for mirtazapine I probably wouldn’t be here. It’s really helpful for my anxiety and depression but not the phobia of the dentist. Here in the U.K. A&Es (Ed’s) and regular doctors aren’t insured for anything dental and anything dental has to be through dentist. I also have adhd but I’m waiting on a diagnosis as my area doesn’t have an adult adhd centre so have to use a nhs trust that has one, the waiting list is 5 years but you also have right to choose where the nhs pays for private psychiatric care where waiting lists are excessive but even private it’s a 6 month wait for diagnosis at least (could be more now) and a further 6 months to get meds titrated which means a years wait still.

Honestly our health system is a shambles and has been for years and years. Especially mental health and dentistry are the areas that are so crap, we don’t have bad teeth because we’re British but because our government fails us on dentistry and if you can’t pay thousands of pounds for dental treatment then you have to obey the nhs system which is against fixing rather than pulling teeth (saves the dentist time and money despite their “hard to live off earning working for the nhs” £120,000 take home profit a year isn’t that bad at all. But they can’t make it pay, no because in private dentistry you earn 3-6 times that as you rip off private customers and insurers.

If the dentist would have referred to a community access dentist then they’d have given the sedation without hassle as it’s not profit driven but care driven. But they referred to a private dental surgeon and he out right refused after two seconds. I even asked if I could just not stop the meds a few days before and be fine but he had none of it. Its all about greed and money and they have no care in them, people are seen as walking wallets by then in this country it’s s disgrace. Oh and the private dentists - who paid your dental school bills? Us stupid taxpayers who once you graduated and get your post grad training complete then you run off to the private sector to f over the taxpayers who’ve paid you’re training for the last 6 of 7 years. They should be forced to take a percentage of nhs so that everyone and not just the rich have access to good dental healthcare.

 

[sun fower seeds]

I’m glad your anxiety and depression are being treated well with the Mirtazapine.

I know your health system is messed up because l looked up NHS (National Health Service) on the search engine. I looked under mental health and about all I could find was talk therapy but I couldn’t find anything under psychiatrists.

How did you get treated for anxiety and depression? I think you should consider yourself lucky that you got treated for that.

You said you also had Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and there is a waiting list of 5 years. I have like a learning disability.

What about “go fund me?” Would you consider that?

 

[sun fower seeds]

Jamis:

I just read the below on the internet. I almost advise you not to read it:

Nearly 7.6 million waiting for treatment in UK's NHS (National Health Service)

Provided by Washington Examiner

Approximately 7.57 million Britons are waiting for routine healthcare treatment in the United Kingdom's National Health Service, according to new numbers released on Thursday.

Slightly over a month after the NHS's 75th anniversary, fresh data reveal that wait times for the U.K.'s nationalized healthcare system have tripled from pre-pandemic levels, including an increase of 100,000 patients between May and June of this year.

As of the end of June, 314 U.K. citizens had been waiting more than two years to receive routine healthcare treatments, such as hip replacements. Over 7,000 patients had been waiting for over 18 months, and over 380,000 had been waiting for more than a year.

The majority of patients waiting for care, over 4 million, had been waiting for up to 18 weeks, according to the NHS report.

The summer 2023 spike is in part due to the series of strikes of junior NHS doctors in recent months, causing periodic breaks in healthcare provision across the U.K.

A new strike from Aug. 11 to Aug. 15 will be the fifth junior doctor strike, amounting to a total of 450 service hours or 19 full days with the NHS only functioning on two-thirds of medical staff.

“This latest round of junior doctors strikes will again significantly disrupt services for patients and the additional challenge this time is that organisations are unable to use agency workers to cover staff out on strike," NHS National Medical Director Stephen Powis said in a press statement about the most recent strike. "It is also a period of time where NHS staff often take annual leave, so there are already gaps in the workforce."

A press statement from the NHS indicated that nearly 780,000 hospital appointments had been postponed because of the physician strikes.

Thursday's report puts significant strain on British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, who has promised to reduce waiting list times.

"Today's data is a reminder of the significant pressure on staff, with this summer currently on trajectory to be the busiest in NHS history, all while industrial action continues to disrupt services," Julian Redhead of NHS England told reporters in response to the report.

The NHS has often been referenced by critics of the U.S. healthcare system as an example of a successful universal healthcare system.

This summer, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), along with Reps. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) and Debbie Dingell (D-MI), reintroduced the Medicare for All Act to restructure the U.S. healthcare system.

 

[Jamis070395]

I got treated by my regular dr. They can prescribe antidepressants and what not. Basically there’s hardly any psychiatrists in the country. I’m well aware of the wait list, my dads on over a year for a standard gall bladder removal. It’s a shambles.

I’m glad your anxiety and depression are being treated well with the Mirtazapine.

I know your health system is messed up because l looked up NHS (National Health Service) on the search engine. I looked under mental health and about all I could find was talk therapy but I couldn’t find anything under psychiatrists.

How did you get treated for anxiety and depression? I think you should consider yourself lucky that you got treated for that.

You said you also had Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and there is a waiting list of 5 years. I have like a learning disability.

What about “go fund me?” Would you consider that?

 

[sun fower seeds]

Do you want to consider the "go fund me" route?

 

[Jamis070395]

Do you want to consider the "go fund me" route?

I wouldn’t know where to begin with that sort of stuff and dont know many people that’s probably going to donate so I doubt it and don’t use social media or anything.

 

[sun fower seeds]

I don't know where to begin with that sorta thing either. My email went out for the 2nd time and I had to get somebody to come over here and hook up my third such attempt because I'm not reallly computer literate. I don't do Twitter. I would still just use a typewritter if I could. We could put it in your name and the funds would go to you. You can follow it and you can get a friend to go to that same "Go Fund Me" and see what they think. I just typed that in and went to "Go Fund Me" for the first time probably yesterday or the day before. It looked real easy, just something like, type in what you need the money for." I can go to it again right now and see what some of the details are. Wait a minute....

 

[sun fower seeds]

OK, I just went back to "gofundme.com" on the search engine. It said: 1. Start with the Basics. "Kick things off with your name and location." 2. Tell your story. "We'll guide you with tips along the way." 3. Share with friends. "People out there want...." So, if you go to on the search engine, type in "Gofundme". Then type in the your ID data and then the situation. I will write your problem for you, based on your descriptions on this website, and send that writeup to you on one of these dental website posts. OK? It all starts and ends with you.