Stressing me out Wisdom Tooth

[Ladywriter1968]

As per my other threads and helpful advice, it still stresses me out about my tooth, as it hurts at times as well, and with hospital saying do this, do that, do the other first. I feel like caught between devil and the deep blue sea. I wanted to get in again this week to see own dentist to ask further advice but was fully booked. The good thing is, its 2days before my 2nd hospital appointment with the dentist there.

What I am also angry about is the fact I didnt ask the person that examined me if he was a dentist or the actual oral surgeon written on my letter. He didnt introduce himself and I didnt think to ask. I will next week when I go. You know how some times you never see the actual person named on the letter but a fill - in basically. OK, the joke (fill in) yeah quite funny said same to husband, is he the actual oral surgeon or just a fill in.LOL. That made me laugh at least.

I actually rang up a private place in Harley street, but OMG, I cant afford that kind of money. Just for a consultation privately its £200, thats before they even done anything. so I will have to stick with the NHS. Even though its long winded and can wait forever. If I had the money I would have just gone private to get the thing over and done with.

My brother in law said he was in the hospital awake 4.5 hours and had 3 teeth pulled. My friend was there 1.5hrs just to have a small filling. Why was they there so long, because its a training hospital. and the ones being trained had to keep verifying every single thing they did and this took ages. I can understand they need to learn but to expect a patient to lay there and keep their mouth open for over 4hrs. I honestly dont know how he coped with it.

People say of 2nd opinion but its not so easy, you cant choose at hospital of 2nd opinions I dont think on NHS, they would say if you want that then you would have to pay privately. Since NHS is very limited anyway. I do feel that some times though with NHS you get passed off really. Obviously with private treatment they would treat you like a king or queen. But in NHS there is no real consideration of trying to calm the patient and some times you feel they dont even listen. You sit in room with lots of others like cattle. While you sit there nervous. I am talking 30 people upwards. Plus its on the 23rd floor as well. You all crowd into the lift if you can fit into it that it.

I see these private ones on line and it looks so calm and clean and nice. And then I realise that unfortunately, not all of us have that kind of money and have to settle for 2nd best. I know the nhs is in crisis really.

I mean, this is another area, but when I had chest pains and was in A and E before they lost my blood test results which meant I had to be there for over 4hrs when I could have been there for less. The doctor sent up to the lab and they lost them, she ended up doing it herself. So I had to have more blood tests before I left and felt like a pin cushion. Even the doctor was angry with the lab for losing them. It had to go to like 4 departments before reaching the lab. This other doctor told me to wait in this room, and then I waited, and waited, then I came out and saw him and said I have been waiting and waiting. He said, where? I said, in the room where you told me to wait and you never came back, he didn't even apologise or nothing. He didn't seem to care much really. And said, well you can wait over there and he sat down at his computer. Its only because I am out spoken, if I was a quiet person I would have been in that room for hours forgotten about. I had to push to get anything done even though I had chest pains.

Well now I have moaned and vented. The NHS is very good for some things. Like when had physio on my back, 8wk sessions free. Was very good. and when I had a scan on my heart before that was very good. But on other things they seem poor.

 

[carole]

I know what you are saying about the NHS, but you need to look around a few NHS dentists, there will be one that you can get a trusting relationship with, you may have to go to three or four, but a dentist is out there somewhere. I know I have done it, I had to find one pretty quickly in Sept last year, and the one I found was wonderful. I ended up having a lot of antibiotics, a tooth pulled and two root canals from then to March this year.

I never though I would have a rct bad experiences when I was young, but I did it and I still can't believe I did it. Once you sort out your wisdom tooth, I think it is from reading the other threads, if I am wrong, sorry I'm easily mixed up. You can e mail dentists near where you live or a bit further afield and see what comes back, you can then decide to see which one you would most like to give a try, if that one doesn't fit the bill, try the next.

GOOD LUCK

 

[Ladywriter1968]

I Am Fed Up - wisdom tooth moans and hospital lack of information given

Wisdom tooth, impacted distalled I think its called. Back to mouth under gum.

Dentist referred me to hospital for removal of tooth.
Saw surgeon one, not one named on letter but an under study.
He told me all these procedures first which will take time.
Try hot and colds then bite guard for 2wk, pain killers etc. Before consider extraction of wisdom tooth.
Which is hurting by the way. Now I think I am getting a slight hole there ready for infection to.
Returned, 2nd appointment and saw some one else again. Not impressed at all! it seems to be who is available at the time. Not the person who is actually dealing with my case. I told him I want it out but he said I will still have to go through all this other stuff first.

He said the Cone CT scan would be about month and also to make me appointment to see the actual surgeon on my letter. I thought, at last. Then he gave me a pink form to take to next floor and was no one there, all gone to lunch for 2 hours. I had no one to give the form to. A nurse happen to be passing and she took it for me and said she would hand it in. Upon disappointment as I wanted to actually give in myself to ask about appointments. But you cant give a form to ghost staff can you?

I rang today and lady said the nurse gave my form in, asked her how long for next appointment and she had no clue at all. She said I would have to wait for letter but she had no idea. Its like I have just been dismissed with the pain and shoved away really.

I was not told what would come first, the CT Cone Scan or see the surgeon or what? I have to use this bite thing for 2 weeks to see if it works, how will they know if they dont know the next time they are going to see me and have no clue.

I just got in touch with PALS as I am really had it up to here now with it all.

Years ago you could just go to a dentist and get a sedation and have it all done in a week, now its going to take forever. In the mean time I will probably end up with an infection now. As between the molar and the wisdom there is a gap forming where its forcing thru.

Even my own dentist who refer me said there is a gap for stuff to get caught into.

 

[Rock Chick]

Re: I Am Fed Up - wisdom tooth moans and hospital lack of information given

Really it makes little sense why they just wont go ahead with the scan since you're in pain & there's a gap ripe for infection on top of you stressing over it but it sounds like they perhaps want to avoid doing things unless they're totally needed, yeah but how would they know without that scan? I feel for you, I'd be ready to yell at someone.
Wait for a letter, but the question is when is that letter coming, I know the feeling all too well, sounds like some sort of waiting list maybe.

I know it might not be the best idea but can you get put on some mild antibiotics for preventive measures since you feel there's a realistic chance of infection (not saying take them for long, just 1 course perhaps) & it seems you have no idea when you'll even get the scan? Also perhaps using a syringe to clean out the gap filled as well as regular mouthwash to try & keep bacteria at bay, just considering ways to prevent an infection.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

Re: I Am Fed Up - wisdom tooth moans and hospital lack of information given

Really it makes little sense why they just wont go ahead with the scan since you're in pain & there's a gap ripe for infection on top of you stressing over it but it sounds like they perhaps want to avoid doing things unless they're totally needed, yeah but how would they know without that scan? I feel for you, I'd be ready to yell at someone.
Wait for a letter, but the question is when is that letter coming, I know the feeling all too well, sounds like some sort of waiting list maybe.

I know it might not be the best idea but can you get put on some mild antibiotics for preventive measures since you feel there's a realistic chance of infection (not saying take them for long, just 1 course perhaps) & it seems you have no idea when you'll even get the scan? Also perhaps using a syringe to clean out the gap filled as well as regular mouthwash to try & keep bacteria at bay, just considering ways to prevent an infection.

I know exactly, how long will it be before that letter arrives. Also been given this bite thing to use 2 weeks, which makes me feel sick. After two weeks since got no follow up appointment there is no one to see if thats helped or not is there? Cos he said try this for 2 weeks. And then what? wait months for a letter. I just complained to PALS as had enough basically. Hoping PALS will reply during the week. Thanks for your advice anyway, had antibiotics before for it. I can only take them for so long as again, the last ones I had made me unwell. Certain medicines react to me not good really.

The scan Cone CT he said about 2-3 months, but that's not really much of an answer, was same answer to see this surgeon to. I am sure they are just piling me off with students you know. I don't mean to be ageist here but all the ones that have seen me look very young to be honest. Not saying that there are not good young dentists out there as there are. But experience is like anything and they never have a top person with them in case of wrong diagnoses. But I know its my wisdom tooth and lets be honest, you don't need the weather man to tell you that its peeing down outside do you. When it actually is.

You are not the only one who has said that, of them putting it off, my friends have said exactly same as you to. it seems they are trying to avoid doing the operation. I know about the risks and all. But what do they expect me to do then, live with the pain until I retire and then maybe when all my teeth fall out from infection they wont need to bother then will they.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

I know what you are saying about the NHS, but you need to look around a few NHS dentists, there will be one that you can get a trusting relationship with, you may have to go to three or four, but a dentist is out there somewhere. I know I have done it, I had to find one pretty quickly in Sept last year, and the one I found was wonderful. I ended up having a lot of antibiotics, a tooth pulled and two root canals from then to March this year.

I never though I would have a rct bad experiences when I was young, but I did it and I still can't believe I did it. Once you sort out your wisdom tooth, I think it is from reading the other threads, if I am wrong, sorry I'm easily mixed up. You can e mail dentists near where you live or a bit further afield and see what comes back, you can then decide to see which one you would most like to give a try, if that one doesn't fit the bill, try the next.

GOOD LUCK

Thanks for reply, but I have been referred to the hospital to have it done under a GA, when they get their finger out, no dentists around here do sedations, and when I even contacted a few they dont want to remove my tooth as its near to the nerve and wont take the chance either. I rang up a clinic and explained to them the situation and that I would have to be sedated, they do this. When I explained about the nerve near my tooth they said we would end up refer you back to the hospital again.

The problem is, its not an RCT its a wisdom tooth under gum which is right on or near to the nerve. So no dentist wants to do it. Plus I need to be put under to and a lot of them dont do that any more. In case of complications of my tooth they wont take that chance and said I would have to have it done at hospital. Which I am being messed about with. There may be a dentist that will do it with me with a local, but I cant go thru all that just with a local.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

update on it

have an update on wisdom tooth.

Rang Pals today as not heard from hospital and they made me appointment for June to see the man doctor. Pals said I must be a special case as to my situation it may mean me waiting a bit longer then patients with basic wisdoms that are easy to get out as it could be that maybe I need a certain surgeon to do it. Due to my circumstances with the tooth near the nerve etc. When I see the doctor in June I guess he will discuss with me the various options.

When I was walking today out in the rain I felt a bad pain in my tooth, I could not even turn my head to that side and the pain went up to my ear. Its on and off all the time now.

To clarify its in distall position impaction.

I am glad that at least I now have a date as have something to go on rather then before had nothing at all.

 

[Rock Chick]

I do feel you, one of my situations was different but in some ways similar.

My local dental clinic isn't the best at being able to tell if some of my teeth are really close to the nerve or not, so I got the it probably will be alright if I remove it but there's a chance of complications that would cause nerve damage. Well needless to say there was no way I was willing to risk that when they couldn't even tell by my the x-rays enough.

I was put on a huge waiting list for a specialist I suppose at a large dental hospital. I waited but not even a letter, it got worse, part of it broke off. I figured they'd have the x-rays sent over by now so stuff this I'd go & see if they could remove it normally. Gladly it wasn't really close to the nerve & they could. However who knows how long I could have been waiting if it were with it just getting worse?

Public waiting lists for specialist treatment for dental work can be so frustrating (I'm assuming it's being done through the public health system & not private) & I'm glad at least it'll be in June & not longer, not meaning at all to downplay what's happened, you're in bad pain now so June probably feels like years away! Now I'm not trying to scare you by saying this but if it gets worse please have it looked at either by your dentist or even a GP in case has by then led to an infection so you can get antibiotics, not just for your own health but in case they wont remove it due to an infection as seems standard practise.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

I do feel you, one of my situations was different but in some ways similar.

My local dental clinic isn't the best at being able to tell if some of my teeth are really close to the nerve or not, so I got the it probably will be alright if I remove it but there's a chance of complications that would cause nerve damage. Well needless to say there was no way I was willing to risk that when they couldn't even tell by my the x-rays enough.

I was put on a huge waiting list for a specialist I suppose at a large dental hospital. I waited but not even a letter, it got worse, part of it broke off. I figured they'd have the x-rays sent over by now so stuff this I'd go & see if they could remove it normally. Gladly it wasn't really close to the nerve & they could. However who knows how long I could have been waiting if it were with it just getting worse?

Public waiting lists for specialist treatment for dental work can be so frustrating (I'm assuming it's being done through the public health system & not private) & I'm glad at least it'll be in June & not longer, not meaning at all to downplay what's happened, you're in bad pain now so June probably feels like years away! Now I'm not trying to scare you by saying this but if it gets worse please have it looked at either by your dentist or even a GP in case has by then led to an infection so you can get antibiotics, not just for your own health but in case they wont remove it due to an infection as seems standard practise.

Its nhs yes. My dentist gave me another option for a clinic who do sedation, but again they dont have the Cone Beam scan to tell where the nerve lies where as the hospital do have this scanner, but its waiting to have the scan thats the problem.

My dentist said it could end up being infected now as to being prolonged, but antibiotics make me quite ill thats the problem as well. A re visited my dentist today and he put some antiseptic stuff by there to help it. He said if it gets to much he can refer me to this clinic. He said the nerve damage is 2% from 100 people. He also said that if it gets infection they will have to remove all of it not just the crown as hospital stated.

Antibiotics I had for it last time actually but they are not really a means to an end and it will just return until its removed. the last lot I took made me have severe head aches and felt very ill and sick. and I kept falling a sleep as well. Plus as I am on other meds for life as well I have to be careful.

I am in two minds now whether to just go to the clinic and get it done there quicker and take the chance of wait for the hospital which could be whenever.

I am seeing this doctor June but I dont know how long the waiting list will be there after seeing him as I am not even on it yet. they wanted to try other things first but my own dentist said its the wisdom tooth. I think even he thinks they are messing around a bit.

He said there is that risk of removal and the numbness which could be perm or the risk of keeping it in there and having pain forever and then getting infected. I mean, what a choice I got. But then again I had the others out and was fine.

Also its a student learning dental department hospital as well. So it makes me wonder if they do it this way so they can use me as a guinee pig to say try this try that first so that way their students get to experiment on me. By a student making me this bite thing, he is then learning. Even though that is not the problem.

Maybe they go through all the same with everyone. But since I am a "special Case" they said I may wait longer. I wish now I had the sodding thing out years ago but no point me saying that now. I hate the bloody things they cause nothing but trouble and pain and do nothing, just sit there. They are useless waste of space.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

My Update On My Wisdom Tooth

As per previous threads for those who have not seen. I have impacted wisdom lower left distal position under gum. Have been getting pain with it. Was put on hospital list. This may be of use for anyone else under the hospital although depending on your trouble it may be different plus from hospital procedures may also be different from one to another. I dont know but this was mind.

1. First visit examination on tooth and he pressed my face to see if I had TMJ and measured for a gumshield.
2. Second visit was given the gumshield to wear for 2wks at night.
3. May appointment for Cone Beam Scan.
4. June appointment to see main doctor.

I was told to use hot and colds on face for a week and then take these strong pain killers for a week.

I did complain to PALS as felt I was being messed about and all the time being in pain. PALS got me an appointment time for June to see the doctor about further developments, and then I received the letter to. Plus I have an appointment in May as well for the Cone Beam Scan which will show where the nerve lies at base of tooth root.

I dont know after my June appointment how long the waiting list is though there after, so have given myself a back up plan of a clinic sedation centre that also do removals of wisdoms if the pain gets to bad and I cant wait that long. But the only thing is, they dont have the Cone Scan to show them where the nerve is unlike the hospital. Just normal Xray equipment, But with the clinic I was told it would only take 2 visits to remove it. Consultation and then remove if they agreed to it of course.

I saw own dentist in the week again and he thinks I could be getting an infection now inside the gum between the wisdom and the other tooth. I guess the longer it remains in, its not doing me any favours.

The hospital is Guys in London.

I dont know who else on this site lives in London or what hospitals they have used for this process. but would be good if some one recently had done and they can tell me what their experience was like recently.

Plus to add, the hospital did say they would probably give me a GA rather then a sedation. My friend recently only had a sedation at hospital for a camera to be placed down her throat and up other end for tests, not wisdom tooth related, something else. I have had sedation before for other tooth removals, So it surprises me why the hospital would want to give me GA rather then light sedation. Just makes me think it must be a hard one to get out then.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

Wisdom tooth removal in end of July

My wisdom tooth removal under GA at Guys hospital is finally coming up in July, after waiting months for this to be done.

I know on the day I will be nervous although I have had a sedation before, but never a GA, its the afterwards pain that I know to look forward to as its a wisdom tooth that is impaction distal position.

I have it in the morning which is good and to fast 12hr before. I have never had it done at a hospital before.

I wish I could have had it done sooner to have gotten it over and done with but I guess that was the earliest appointment despite already waiting ages.

Its a lower left one. They are going to remove the head not all of it to save nerve damage, she said the bottom part of tooth over the months will make its way upward and then can be removed or may come out itself.

 

[littlestar88]

Re: Wisdom tooth removal in end of July

I had 4 wisdom teeth removed yesterday, one lower one was impacted horizontally. It was nothing like the horror stories everyone says and I am in NO pain now less than 24 hours later! The worst part is the wait (I had about 6 weeks too) Honestly its fine! Good luck

 

[Ladywriter1968]

Talk About Unlucky Or What, Cancelled Operation due to sickness

I was all ready to have my operation tomorrow to have my wisdom tooth removed under GA at the hospital. Being Thursday 20 June.

Last night my throat started to hurt and when I woke up this morning my voice was gone with severe throat infection. Went to my doctors and he said I have pharyngitis which of what I have had a few times before. He said its severely swollen and given me antibiotics, and its painful as well and feels like I got sand stuck in my throat.

I cant believe how unlucky I am. I have been waiting months for this operation and finally get in on a cancellation and then I get sick a day before the operation. My throat is as dry as wood on a hot sunny day. I generally feel very run down as well.

I had to now have the appointment put back to the original date of end of July. Of which originally my husband put in work form to take time off to be with me but then removed this and told them it was ok as I was going this week, and he has this week off. He now got to try and put another form in work now to say, can I have that time after all.

Plus I wanted to get my operation over and done with so I could recover, I believe the quicker the better.

I was told that they would not have done the operation anyway, even if I just turned up for it on the day, they said as soon as they see you was sick they would turn you away to re book.

Years ago I had sedation at the dentist and was sick then to, and I remember sitting in the chair and they turning me away due to being sick, and said I would have to come back when I was well as I had booked a sedation there to years ago for the previous wisdom removal.

I am very angry to be honest and feel let down by life in general. I cant blame any particular person so just say, I blame life then. I feel I have to hit out at something. I have been well for months and something has decided, you will be sick right before your operation so you cant have it.

Do you agree that a hospital would turn me away and refuse to put me under a GA if they see I have a very sore throat and voice loss and generally feel unwell anyway?

 

[Ladywriter1968]

Re: Wisdom tooth removal in end of July

I had 4 wisdom teeth removed yesterday, one lower one was impacted horizontally. It was nothing like the horror stories everyone says and I am in NO pain now less than 24 hours later! The worst part is the wait (I had about 6 weeks too) Honestly its fine! Good luck

thanks for your reply and info. funny how you say of 6wk wait, I have been waiting months and finally get a cancellation appointment and think, great! which was meant for this thursday actually 20th, and guess what happened. I caught a throat infection the day before, well last night it started and been told the hospital will not do my operation now until I am better. I really feel so angry and upset and honest if you could hear all the swear words in my head of which I cant put down here. Something has decided that I will get sick just before my operation.

I saw my doctor and I have a severe throat infection which is as dry as bone, very uncomfortable now. I generally feel very run down at the moment. I been well for months and "something" has decided I was to get sick a day before my operation.

When I rang up the appointments desk and he heard me I could hardly speak, my husband had to take the phone and speak for me. I am so upset to be honest. but in all said and done, the other part of me says, its happened, tough luck.

 

[carole]

Re: Talk About Unlucky Or What, Cancelled Operation due to sickness

Yes I do agree that they would have turned you away, and quite rightly too. I do understand you have got yourself all prepared for the op, but tomorrow Thursday is the 21st June. No matter you need to be fit and healthy for your body to heal after an operation and having the wisdom tooth out is an operation.

I am sorry to hear you are feeling so low, but things will work out and you do still have the original appointment, you never know you may be lucky and get another cancellation when you are better.

Get well soon, and good luck

 

[coolin]

Re: Talk About Unlucky Or What, Cancelled Operation due to sickness

It may have been cancelled anyway due to some of the doctors being on strike on Thursday? Those on strike will not be doing any elective work.

 

[Ladywriter1968]

I do feel you, one of my situations was different but in some ways similar.

My local dental clinic isn't the best at being able to tell if some of my teeth are really close to the nerve or not, so I got the it probably will be alright if I remove it but there's a chance of complications that would cause nerve damage. Well needless to say there was no way I was willing to risk that when they couldn't even tell by my the x-rays enough.

I was put on a huge waiting list for a specialist I suppose at a large dental hospital. I waited but not even a letter, it got worse, part of it broke off. I figured they'd have the x-rays sent over by now so stuff this I'd go & see if they could remove it normally. Gladly it wasn't really close to the nerve & they could. However who knows how long I could have been waiting if it were with it just getting worse?

Public waiting lists for specialist treatment for dental work can be so frustrating (I'm assuming it's being done through the public health system & not private) & I'm glad at least it'll be in June & not longer, not meaning at all to downplay what's happened, you're in bad pain now so June probably feels like years away! Now I'm not trying to scare you by saying this but if it gets worse please have it looked at either by your dentist or even a GP in case has by then led to an infection so you can get antibiotics, not just for your own health but in case they wont remove it due to an infection as seems standard practise.

I had a cancellation appointment for this week actually and guess what, I only came down with a severe throat infection day before the operation, so I have had to cancel it now and wait again until end of July. How unlucky can one be. My throat is killing me with the pain now. As they wont put under GA when you are sick.

 

[littlestar88]

I very nearly had the same thing as you. I was convinced I was going to come down with something before my appointment and when my voice got a bit scratchy I loaded up on vitamin C, zinc, multi-vitamins and sambucol (its a black elderberry syrup thats meant to stop the cold and flu virus - don't know if it works or is just a very effective placebo). Luckily my scratchy voice went away pretty quick. Its annoying you have a longer wait but you never know, they may get another cancellation and you can go in sooner. Good luck