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I'm terrified, ashamed and embaressed

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I'm 49 years old, I've always been terrified of dentists. I lost many of my teeth years ago when I was a street homeless addict. I've been in recovery for a long time now but the one issue I have never addressed is my teeth. I've been too scared, I've been aware of them getting worse but I've pushed them to the back of my mind.
Last week half of one of my front teeth broke off, it is very painful. I went to a dentist yesterday, I was so scared I threw up in her office. I can't really remember what was said, but I rang this morning and they said they have booked me into the sedation clinic next week. I think I can cope with that, I've asked a friend to accompany me. The problem is that I know this is just the start, I know I need much more work. I don't think that I have the courage to face it, I've dealt with so much in my life and recovery but this seems to be the biggest thing. I've been seriously contemplating suicide. I know this sounds massively dramatic and irrational but that's how it feels. I'm not coping at all well with this, I'm terrified, embaressed and ashamed a very toxic brew.
 
First and foremost, congrats on having the courage to maintain that appointment!! Although the work sounds overwhelming, try focusing on one step at a time. No dentist (should) ever put pressure on you to address every issue immediately. Focus on the next step in front of you, going to that appointment at the sedation clinic! Address what is bothering you currently. It sounds as if you have a support system is place with your friend who will accompany you! It also sounds as if you've accomplished a lot in your life, you've shown incredible strength in overcoming an addiction. You can do this too!! One step at a time! Everything you need to have done at the dentist is something they've seen before and are prepared to handle!
Regarding the suicidal ideation, there is a national hotline number I'd like to share with you. National suicide prevention: 1-800-273-8255 or online at suicidepreventionlifeline.org. I'll be thinking of you, you can do this!! :jump:
 
A friend of mine committed suicide. He always seemed a confident person - he was a manager at the store I used to work at - I very often think of him and wish I could have done something to help, even just chatting to him. He was only in his forties and he should be here now. As should you! Please don't go down that route...you have conquered a lot of problems already, by the sound of it, so try to take one step at a time. I can vouch for the fact that sedation is a good way to get treatment! As someone who is currently wimping out of a simple extraction (except they are not simple for folk like us!), I admire your courage. Even though you are terrified, ashamed and embarrassed, you went to your appointment! That's a darn sight further than I've got this year. :respect:
 
Your story is amazing. You have come through a great deal in your life, and congratulations on maintaining your recovery for so long. I really admire your strength. That strength is what will get you through the next part too. Please don't let your thoughts turn to suicide. You are such a valuable person, and the support and hope you can give to others through sharing your experiences is immense. You are needed. You are also needed here, because it is comforting to others to know they are not alone.

Your fear, shame and embarrassment are all feelings we can relate to here, and we will help you through the next bit, because we've been the or are facing it. Your dentist has now seen your mouth, so the worst of the embarrassment is over. That is major. The dentist seems to be understanding because they have booked you into the sedation clinic. Wll done for phoning to check. I couldn't have done that. Now it's up to you, but you're going to be ok there, because you have asked a friend to support you. All the things you have put in place to make dental treatment happen is because you are strong and courageous. You don't need to worry about pain because sedation and modern dentistry will make it painless. And the end result? A mouth that looks better than you could ever have hoped for. Another step in your self-development completed.

I don't know you, but I like you. I like your forthrightness, your bravery, your strength, and I admire how you have come through a terrible past to become who you are today. Please keep updating your story as you comtinue on. And btw, if you could just come and hold Aldridge's hand as they build up the courage to face an extraction, that would be awesome!

:hug::hug::hug:
 
Thank you for your support. I rang the sedation clinic this morning and they've given me an appointment for September 24th. They seemed very kind and understanding and told me a little about what would happen, they assured me that they're very experienced at dealing with anxious people and that I'll be in good hands.
I've done a lot of personal development work over the last few years. I'm aware that my fear comes from my abusive background. The thought of lying down with someone forcing something in my mouth terrifies me. I know that they're trying to help not harm me but somehow my fear is not reasonable or rational and I turn into a small child again. Somehow my shame and embarrassment is not so much to do with the dentist but with everyone. I feel transparent, as though everyone can see through me and see how ugly my mouth is. I wish I could where a burqa.
I know the only way is to take it like my recovery one day at a time. My immediate fears have settled down a bit because its not happening till the 24th but the shame and embarrassment remain. I'm feeling very low today, but I'm not going to kill myself, or use on this today. I really appreciate your support, comments and advice, thank you so much.
 
I think you are incredibly brave and you have nothing to be ashamed about. No-one can force anything into your mouth, or make you do anything against your will, because you are now the one in control. Once you get to the clinic and things actually get started, you may find it all much easier than you had thought it would be - that is how I found it - my problem is picking up the phone and making appointments, which you have totally sorted! Please keep us updated and hopefully some of your strength will rub off onto others, myself included. There are some inspirational people on here and I think you are going to be another one.
 
Hi and :welcome:

I know you don't feel as though you have the courage to deal with this right now, but you do. It takes an enormous amount of courage to overcome the challenges that you have done so far, so underneath it all, somewhere deep inside, you do have the strength and courage - it's just that it might not feel like it to you at the moment. You found this forum and decided to post a message; that in itself takes courage, because it's the start of you reaching out and finding the help that you need in order to be able to move forward and get the treatment you need :).

I've done a lot of personal development work over the last few years. I'm aware that my fear comes from my abusive background. The thought of lying down with someone forcing something in my mouth terrifies me. I know that they're trying to help not harm me but somehow my fear is not reasonable or rational and I turn into a small child again.

The thought of lying down with someone behind me, putting things in my mouth terrifies me too; I had years of really bad and abusive experiences during dental appointments as a child, to the point where I still experience flashbacks and panic attacks during my appointments now sometimes, even though I now have a dentist who is very patient and understanding and who would never do anything to hurt me. On a rational level, I know that I'm an adult now and that nothing like the stuff that happened when I was younger, is ever likely to happen again, but that doesn't stop me feeling like the small and terrified child every time I'm in the chair.

Earlier this year, my dentist referred me to an endodontist because a root canal I had done a few years ago, needed to be re-treated before I had a crown on the tooth. When I went for the initial consultation with this endodontist, he turned out to be one of the rudest, roughest, abrupt and unpleasant people I have met in a long time. His behaviour was such that it felt like I was regressing back to being a 5 year old again when all the bad stuff was happening; I was absolutely terrified of him - even though I'm now an adult in my mid thirties. I ended up in tears as soon as I walked out of the building because I'd been made to feel so stupid and worthless and I was in so much of a state, that my mum offered to email an oral surgeon who she knows because she said that he would probably be able to recommend another endodontist. Fortunately he replied that night with the name of someone else and so the following morning, I phoned and made an appointment for an initial consultation.

Given how horrendous the first endodontist was, I was absolutely terrified at the prospect of meeting the second one, even though he'd been very highly recommended. When I went to the appointment, I sat in the waiting room absolutely shaking like a leaf and I was about 30 seconds from walking out due to nerves, when the dentist came in, said hello and suggested that we went upstairs into his office for a chat. I told him that I'd had a lot of previous bad experiences and that I have to know that the dentist won't just carry on if I'm in pain, too anxious or need a break. In the past, I've had dentists who have just carried on, even though I've been begging them to stop because I've been in pain and they just ignored it. I made this guy promise on his life that he would make sure my tooth was numb and that he would stop if I asked and that he wouldn't just carry on. He said that he didn't see the point in just carrying on if I wasn't comfortable, because it was about working together.

Six months later and I've ended up having six root canals. It hasn't been easy at all; every time I lay in the chair, I worry about having flashbacks to previous experiences and what might happen if I do. I've had to learn to cope with the rubber dam, which was almost impossible for me in the beginning because every time it was put on, it felt as though I was being suffocated just like when the dentist used to put his hand over my mouth to stop me breathing when I was younger (he used to do this when I couldn't open my mouth because I was too scared). But I've managed to get through it all (admittedly with the help of a few Valium pills ;)) and I couldn't have done it without the dentist being as patient, kind and understanding as he was. Reflecting back on that initial consultation I had a few months ago, he was absolutely right; it is about working together and that's something that had never occurred to me before because for me at least, dentistry was always something that was done to me, not for me or with me.

Nobody will be forcing anything in your mouth; you are choosing to let them help you. You are the one making the choices now. You're the one who's now in control. Try not to worry about turning into a small child again; I've spent years worrying about what if it happens. Sometimes the fear of it happening, is actually much worse and harder to cope with than just letting go and deciding that if it happens, then it happens. Generally speaking (with one or two exceptions; one of whom was the first endodontist I went to see), no dentist has reacted badly whenever I've become scared or I've been panicking. The more pressure you put on yourself to be 'the perfect patient', the more worried you become; it's a vicious circle.

Somehow my shame and embarrassment is not so much to do with the dentist but with everyone. I feel transparent, as though everyone can see through me and see how ugly my mouth is. I wish I could where a burqa.

There is a saying: "Beauty is only skin deep"... and it's very true. The world is fully of seemingly perfect people who have perfect skin, perfect teeth and perfect hair. We spend so much time looking at other people around us, whether they're people we know, people on TV or in books and magazines, and comparing ourselves to them and how they somehow appear to be in some way better than us, that we forget that we are as we are; to love ourselves for who we are rather than who we wish we were. We spend too much time looking at other people and wishing that we were doing what they were doing, instead of deciding to do what we want to do. We become insecure and then start feeling unhappy because we've decided that we don't measure up. But who says that you have to measure up to anyone else anyway?

In my day job in an advertising agency, I come across all sorts of people - most of them 'marketing or advertising arty types' who are trying to be something they're not. Some of the people I've worked with over the years have been stunning beauties with their perfect hair, perfect skin and their perfect nails; but that doesn't mean that they can do the job any better than the small chubby person with a face full of spots who wears glasses (which is me :rolleyes:). At the end of the day, their nails are usually false and underneath all the makeup, they have just as many spots as I do.

I used to worry all the time about what other people thought of me, especially when I was younger. I used to have panic attacks and was quite withdrawn and shy because I thought that other people were better than me and I used to worry about what other people thought. I decided that I needed to learn to drive when I was 25 and so I went out and bought myself a car and arranged for driving lessons with a few of my friends and family. As it got nearer to my driving test, I booked a few lessons with a driving instructor, just to make sure that I was ready to take my driving test. One evening, during one of the lessons with the instructor, I was driving along and I can't remember what we were talking about, but I remember saying that he would probably think I was stupid. My instructor replied: "Does it matter what I think?" and that was a bit of a turning point for me, because I realised that it didn't matter because he was just a driving instructor who was there to give me a few lessons before I took my test. I said to him (with a smile on my face): "No, it doesn't". From then on, I decided that I was only going to care about what other people thought, if I actually cared about those people.

I'm sure you don't want to wear a burqa really - they don't look all that comfortable to me... And imagine how hot it would get in the summer ;).
 
You've certainly got significant reasons for dreading dental treatment. Do you have access to a counsellor, therapist or psychologist who might be able to help you with your feelings of vulnerability in dental treatment situations, or could give you coping strategies? There are some people on the forum who have had experience of abuse which has caused their anxiety in dental situations, and I think some of them will be able to give you good advice.

All the best :hug:.
 
I'm 49 years old, I've always been terrified of dentists. I lost many of my teeth years ago when I was a street homeless addict. I've been in recovery for a long time now but the one issue I have never addressed is my teeth. I've been too scared, I've been aware of them getting worse but I've pushed them to the back of my mind.
Last week half of one of my front teeth broke off, it is very painful. I went to a dentist yesterday, I was so scared I threw up in her office. I can't really remember what was said, but I rang this morning and they said they have booked me into the sedation clinic next week. I think I can cope with that, I've asked a friend to accompany me. The problem is that I know this is just the start, I know I need much more work. I don't think that I have the courage to face it, I've dealt with so much in my life and recovery but this seems to be the biggest thing. I've been seriously contemplating suicide. I know this sounds massively dramatic and irrational but that's how it feels. I'm not coping at all well with this, I'm terrified, embaressed and ashamed a very toxic brew.
Hi hairymarc,
I know how it feels to be completely overwhelmed by the state of your teeth. It feels like there's no way to get from the place you are now to some place where you "normal" teeth. I also completely understand feeling like death would be easier. A year ago I was forced to go back to the dentist by a bad tooth, and was terrified, ashamed, and embarrassed too. Today I have teeth that don't hurt and I'm extremely proud of them, even though they're not perfect and white. A few things I learned that might help:

* You don't have to fix all your teeth at once. I thought that once I went to the dentist, it would be a major trauma like a road resurfacing. Maybe I'd get better teeth in the end, but only after weeks or months of ugly disruption. What I found out is that even teeth that are broken or cracked don't need to be worked on right away; my dentist wasn't even really bothered by my mouth full of jagged bits. I had a long list of things that I needed done, but I did them one at a time, and gradually got better. Most of the procedures were simple enough that I was able to do them at the beginning or end of a work day, and no one even knew I was getting it done. Also, most procedures allow you to get a temp filling or a flipper or immediate partial denture, so you don't have to walk around with a bigger hole in your smile.

* Dental work is really not painful. I had a couple of teeth that were really infected, and I'll be honest, there were a few seconds where it really hurt before they got numb. But a few seconds. If you have sedation there's not even that. My teeth always felt better after the procedure than before; usually immediately, sometimes after a few hours. Never any worse than some advil couldn't relieve.

* Dentists who are experienced with anxious/phobic patients are REALLY kind and compassionate. They're used to people with really bad teeth, and they won't judge you at all. My dentist seemed almost bored looking at my teeth for the first time. I decided that dentists must look at teeth the way mechanics look at cars: not good or bad, just more work to do. So you might have all kinds of shame and judgement about your teeth, but the dentist really just sees a list of procedures.

* Nobody notices your teeth as much as you think they do. I felt like I had a neon sign in my mouth flashing ROT, DECAY, ROT, DECAY. But when I told my friends, even my wife, that I was fixing my teeth, none of them seemed to even know I had a problem.

* Lots more people have dental problems, or have had dental problems, than you'd think. I'd say something like one in three people, when I tell them how much work I've had done, come back with a story of how many things they've had done.

I know, I know how impossible it all seems right now. I know the stress that's so bad it makes you throw up. I know the shame of feeling like you're horrible and useless because your teeth are so awful. I know what it's like to live every day afraid of dentists, toothpaste, smiling, eating. It does get better, it can be fixed, you don't have to turn your life upside down to fix your teeth up. Good luck with your upcoming appointment, and feel free to post here with thoughts, fears, whatever, and we'll help you through it. Here's some hugs, which might seem stupid but they help I think, because you need some hugs: :hug5::hug5::hug5::friends:
 
Steve you had me laughing at this one: * Nobody notices your teeth as much as you think they do. I felt like I had a neon sign in my mouth flashing ROT, DECAY, ROT, DECAY. But when I told my friends, even my wife, that I was fixing my teeth, none of them seemed to even know I had a problem)..

I sure say that same now with my case.. but me is just the I need to remove some plaque and tartar ugh.. but yea you made me laugh..

Now to hairymarc: I would say that you will be fine, I had felt like you where I think if I wasn't around I would be better. but then I decided to make the first step to get a plan. now you have done that; take it one day at the time.. and step at time.. think of how good you will feel once you see the results.. believe me I can't wait for myself. :). where I can speak to others with confidence and no hinding or speaking from far away.. so they don't see my neon sign to much (Like Steve said LOL)..

I wish you nothing but the best in this journey;:clover::clover::clover: but remember you are not alone.. your here now.. :jump::jump::hug::hug::hug::thumbsup:
 

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