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Hanaku
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I just came from the dentist. My problem had been a sudden pain in one teeth (and later in another), that forced me to take over-the-counter painkillers, that helped with the pain, but caused 'uncomfortable feeling' with anxiety and all. So, I had to choose between 'emotional pain' and 'physical pain', basically.
Needless to say, the pain, fears, and anxiety from the painkiller caused a very weird situation that prohibited sleep for a couple of nights and days, removed appetite, and so on. For a few days, I lived in a surreal nightmare that I couldn't escape.
To shorten the story, I finally went to the dentist, expecting the dentist to just fix that darn painful front tooth that seemed to cause most of the trouble, and perhaps add a filling to a tooth that I know is probably missing one.
I had tried 'non-official' methods for taking care of teeth, and since the teeth looked good and had no extra cavities (I had some from younger days with candy and all that), I thought it was working.
However, I had noticed from older photos that my gums had started to recede, and it looked pretty terrible. I had wondered why my lower teeth looked like some kind of monster mouth because the teeth were no longer nicely aligned, but had moved around to leave big gaps and basically looked really worrying. Two teeth that always had a gap, had now almost merged together.
I hoped the gums could somehow be healed, but I couldn't find any info in the net.
I figured, if only this one tooth could be somehow 'fixed', I could go on with my life.
I have some dreams, like moving to a smaller, better city - I never liked the one I live in right now, I was brought here as a kid against my will.
I have spent the last years saving money for such a move (but life has a way of prolonging this type of projects, which is why it took so long), and this year, last month, I finally reached the goal and now I have enough. But I don't want to move in the dark, gloomy winter era, so I postponed the move to the spring.
Now, the dentist suddenly tells me that I have 'bone loss' and my gums have receded, because I have some kind of gum disease (the doctor's communication and linguistic skills were a bit lacking, so my comprehension was only partial). He later showed me from an X-ray he took of that tooth, that the bone line should be a lot lower (visually speaking, as we were talking about upper front teeth) than where it is.
The tooth were barely hanging in there, which is why some of those tooth were 'moving' and could develop pain, just like this one. This, he told me, was just the first one, and the rest would follow.
The only 'cure', I was told, is to just pull the tooth out. This would cost 400 euros.
There go my moving-savings..
Then he looked at a lower tooth, 'fixed' a slightly broken tooth (I wondered why that lower tooth felt so sharp at one point), and 'cleaned' the tooth that had been cause of so much trouble for me (this 'cleaning' was so painful, as the anaesthetic probably didn't work so well - it was the most painful needle-trio I had ever felt, so I may have jerked my head backwards from the pain so he couldn't get the needle as deep as needed - that's my theory anyway), and started analyzing my gums and teeth in general.
He came to the conclusion that pretty much all my tooth will have to be pulled, and I will need to use dentures instead.
My physical age is around mid-40s, so I guess this kind of thing should be expected.
However, I am in shock, I thought I was taking at least a 'better-than-average' care of my teeth - I am not a health nut or teeth nut, so I just do the bare minimum, sometimes forgetting or not caring, etc.
Still, for a long time now, I had at least brushed my teeth in the morning and swished with salt, and did something you're not supposed to mention here.
I thought it's enough that you don't have cavities - I NEVER even considered I could get a nasty gum disease that will eat up the bone somehow and cause me to have to wear dentures.
How? How do things like this happen? I don't drink or smoke, I stopped drinking coffee a month ago, my mouth should be fine. I don't even indulge in candy or such, just chocolate sometimes, or some 'bun' type pastries maybe sometimes. I eat vegetables and the only 'meat' I eat is fish. (Plus, dairy products and eggs sometimes)
I should have a healthy mouth, but instead, I have a disease killing all hope for a normal life. Or is it?
This is so shocking, I am not even sure I am able to be properly shocked yet - I am sure it will hit me like ton of bricks later, but right now I just can't believe it. The dentist also gave me a recipe for some odd liquid I need to use to swish twice a day in 10-day periods, then a week without doing it, then another 10 days, etc.
It reads something like it's made for 'infections caused by dentures' - oh, great, dentures can CAUSE infections?
As the whole visit was like torture, it was physically painful, emotionally and psychologically shocking, and spiritually devastating (where's divine mercy when you need it..?), I am not sure what to think or feel. I feel woozy, and scared to eat.
He didn't really 'fix' the tooth, just 'cleaned' it, so it will probably remain painful. This wasn't quite what I was hoping or expecting.
Instead of having a nice fix so I can get on with my life, my whole life was just destroyed completely, now I have nothing to shoot for anymore.
I mean, why move to a better city, if my mouth is going to be in eternal torture and devastated, what's the point. Also, how can I move, when all this is going to be more expensive than I can even afford with all those savings..?
I have until January to think about if I want to let the dentist pull out that tooth, and to make an appointment to 'full mouth check' to decide when and how and what teeth to pull and all that.
What's the point of even trying to heal the gum disease, if I am not going to have any teeth?
This is just so surreal and scary, I can't even believe it's real, so part of me just wants to treat it as a bad horror movie, as if it's not really me, but some outsider that all this is happening to. Then the tooth starts to ache a bit to remind me of reality.
How can I go on with this? I mean, if that dentist visit was already torturous because of the physical pain and all that other pain, can I really endure another visit that will probably be more painful, and also completely life-changing?
How do you eat without teeth, especially if you have to wait for swelling to go down, so you can't even use dentures to chew? Do you have to just eat foods that do not require chewing, like mashed potatoes or soups?
How painful will it be to have a mouth full of wounds instead of teeth? Would it be actually better to let the tooth fall off on their own?
No wonder I have had many nightmares about all my teeth falling off - now that's becoming a reality. I would rather have my toes cut off or maybe some kind of leg problem that forces me to use a cain for the rest of my life. But losing all my teeth..?
From what I have read from this forum, they pull all (or most) of them in one go, in one side (upper or lower), and the next appointment do the rest?
The dentist says there might be 'salvageable' teeth that do not need to be pulled..
So is the denture made so it fits snugly around those tooth? What if you have to use a temporary denture, how does that work?
I have so many questions, such shockingly bad news is pretty hard to take, when all you want is a single tooth pain to go away.
In any case, I guess nothing will be done before january, unless I get another 'acute pain' tooth before that, and then that one might have to be pulled.
My future does not look bright, when I have to be fearful of my tooth all the time now.
How can ever enjoy anything else, just focus completely on something, with this on my mind? How do people cope with this psychologically? I sure can't understand why this is happening, or how to cope, or even what to do. Would it really be more painful to just do nothing about it and let the teeth fall on their own?
I don't know, I am desperate, I am trying to consider all options and possibilities. In all possbile ways, this feels like the end of the road, end of my life, end of anything good I could do, achieve or experience in life anymore. How can I enjoy anything or feel joy or have fun with this pain in my future?
And is there a life afterwards? Also, how the heck can I endure the pain and waiting and swelling and not eating and feeling like a freak because I have no teeth left?
No wonder older people are always proud, if they can say 'I still have all my own teeth'. Now I understand that completely. To not even reach 50 yet and lose all teeth.. I know it has happened to younger people as well, but it's just so stopping.
It's like all and any flow I might have had in life just stopped completely, and there's nothing left in life but just a huge shock and crisis. This year has been so awful for me already anyway in numerous other ways, and now this. A lifestopper.
I remember older men, the grandfather type, in my childhood, showing kids their dentures, and it was a shocking and scary, but also a bit funny thing back then. I had no idea what psychological implications 'dentures' have. Now I am not a kid anymore, I will be that balding weird old man, scaring people with their dentures just to clown around.
Food supposedly tastes different.. is it better or worse?
Do you have to 'clean' those holes left by the teeth somehow? How do the dentures stay in place? Why are lower dentures harder to use, you'd think gravity would help?
I wonder how much this would end up costing me moneywise, and most importantly, pain-wise. The psychological impact is also enormous. How do you kiss with dentures? Let alone the french version..?
I hope I am not offending anyone that went through this and has dentures now as their normal life. This is just so depressing, like an end of an era, or end of my whole life.
How do you still enjoy life or other things? Can you still read a book, watch a movie, or have a conversation and not think about the situation? Oh goodness, I just realized.. do I have to 'learn to talk' all over again?
Is it possible to do 'beatboxing' with dentures? This may sound stupid, but I like to create things, so I am used to making 'weird sounds' with my mouth sometimes, and mimicing instruments for my music sometimes (just for the fun of it), would all this even be possible anymore?
How did you people cope, that had all or most teeth pulled out, was it expensive, how long did it take to get used to dentures instead of teeth, how many visits to the dentist, how many complications, how do you eat food without dentures or teeth, how many teeth do they pull at one visitation?
I just want to scream and stop existing right now, I don't know what to do, I am thinking desperate thoughts, maybe I could escape this situation somehow, maybe I can just let the teeth rot and see what that's like.. although if this one tooth's painful reactions are preview of what's to come, that would be unbearable anquish and pain.
I have never been in a scarier situation before, I don't know what to do or what not to do... I am planning on not doing much today, and starting to do the whole 'use this liquid two times a day' stuff tomorrow. I think the purpose is to heal the gum disease so in January, my teeth can be pulled out. If I last that long with this one tooth without having it pulled out (possibly the only way to get rid of the pain, but I am still unsure of what they will do to the 'empty hole' - he talked about prothesis of some kind, so maybe a more 'permanent prothesis' instead of denture).
Paying a small fortune to someone for pulling off your tooth is like paying a gangster to stab you, it doesn't seem to make sense.
I might sound a bit weird in this post, but I am kind of panicking, I am confused, I am shocked, horrified, and don't really know what to do or what direction to try to take anything anymore. It really feels like my life just ended, and the only thing left is a lot of torture, pain and money loss.
Any kind of perspective, sympathy/empathy, help, suggestions, wisdom, experience-sharing, advice, 'what-to-expect', information, guiding, etc. would be greatly appreciated - life has treated me pretty bad before, but never THIS shockingly horribly.
I really want to know if there's life after losing all (or most) teeth.
(I am also worried, I might not be able to do the required procedures every day - the dentist told me to floss (never done that in my life! wouldn't even know how), to brush two times a day, and then to use that liquid thing - how am I supposed to do all that -every- day? I am not a systematic individual, some days I just can't do this kind of things, and I don't have that kind of energy to devote to a project that has the end result of 'losing all my teeth'.)
Needless to say, the pain, fears, and anxiety from the painkiller caused a very weird situation that prohibited sleep for a couple of nights and days, removed appetite, and so on. For a few days, I lived in a surreal nightmare that I couldn't escape.
To shorten the story, I finally went to the dentist, expecting the dentist to just fix that darn painful front tooth that seemed to cause most of the trouble, and perhaps add a filling to a tooth that I know is probably missing one.
I had tried 'non-official' methods for taking care of teeth, and since the teeth looked good and had no extra cavities (I had some from younger days with candy and all that), I thought it was working.
However, I had noticed from older photos that my gums had started to recede, and it looked pretty terrible. I had wondered why my lower teeth looked like some kind of monster mouth because the teeth were no longer nicely aligned, but had moved around to leave big gaps and basically looked really worrying. Two teeth that always had a gap, had now almost merged together.
I hoped the gums could somehow be healed, but I couldn't find any info in the net.
I figured, if only this one tooth could be somehow 'fixed', I could go on with my life.
I have some dreams, like moving to a smaller, better city - I never liked the one I live in right now, I was brought here as a kid against my will.
I have spent the last years saving money for such a move (but life has a way of prolonging this type of projects, which is why it took so long), and this year, last month, I finally reached the goal and now I have enough. But I don't want to move in the dark, gloomy winter era, so I postponed the move to the spring.
Now, the dentist suddenly tells me that I have 'bone loss' and my gums have receded, because I have some kind of gum disease (the doctor's communication and linguistic skills were a bit lacking, so my comprehension was only partial). He later showed me from an X-ray he took of that tooth, that the bone line should be a lot lower (visually speaking, as we were talking about upper front teeth) than where it is.
The tooth were barely hanging in there, which is why some of those tooth were 'moving' and could develop pain, just like this one. This, he told me, was just the first one, and the rest would follow.
The only 'cure', I was told, is to just pull the tooth out. This would cost 400 euros.
There go my moving-savings..
Then he looked at a lower tooth, 'fixed' a slightly broken tooth (I wondered why that lower tooth felt so sharp at one point), and 'cleaned' the tooth that had been cause of so much trouble for me (this 'cleaning' was so painful, as the anaesthetic probably didn't work so well - it was the most painful needle-trio I had ever felt, so I may have jerked my head backwards from the pain so he couldn't get the needle as deep as needed - that's my theory anyway), and started analyzing my gums and teeth in general.
He came to the conclusion that pretty much all my tooth will have to be pulled, and I will need to use dentures instead.
My physical age is around mid-40s, so I guess this kind of thing should be expected.
However, I am in shock, I thought I was taking at least a 'better-than-average' care of my teeth - I am not a health nut or teeth nut, so I just do the bare minimum, sometimes forgetting or not caring, etc.
Still, for a long time now, I had at least brushed my teeth in the morning and swished with salt, and did something you're not supposed to mention here.
I thought it's enough that you don't have cavities - I NEVER even considered I could get a nasty gum disease that will eat up the bone somehow and cause me to have to wear dentures.
How? How do things like this happen? I don't drink or smoke, I stopped drinking coffee a month ago, my mouth should be fine. I don't even indulge in candy or such, just chocolate sometimes, or some 'bun' type pastries maybe sometimes. I eat vegetables and the only 'meat' I eat is fish. (Plus, dairy products and eggs sometimes)
I should have a healthy mouth, but instead, I have a disease killing all hope for a normal life. Or is it?
This is so shocking, I am not even sure I am able to be properly shocked yet - I am sure it will hit me like ton of bricks later, but right now I just can't believe it. The dentist also gave me a recipe for some odd liquid I need to use to swish twice a day in 10-day periods, then a week without doing it, then another 10 days, etc.
It reads something like it's made for 'infections caused by dentures' - oh, great, dentures can CAUSE infections?
As the whole visit was like torture, it was physically painful, emotionally and psychologically shocking, and spiritually devastating (where's divine mercy when you need it..?), I am not sure what to think or feel. I feel woozy, and scared to eat.
He didn't really 'fix' the tooth, just 'cleaned' it, so it will probably remain painful. This wasn't quite what I was hoping or expecting.
Instead of having a nice fix so I can get on with my life, my whole life was just destroyed completely, now I have nothing to shoot for anymore.
I mean, why move to a better city, if my mouth is going to be in eternal torture and devastated, what's the point. Also, how can I move, when all this is going to be more expensive than I can even afford with all those savings..?
I have until January to think about if I want to let the dentist pull out that tooth, and to make an appointment to 'full mouth check' to decide when and how and what teeth to pull and all that.
What's the point of even trying to heal the gum disease, if I am not going to have any teeth?
This is just so surreal and scary, I can't even believe it's real, so part of me just wants to treat it as a bad horror movie, as if it's not really me, but some outsider that all this is happening to. Then the tooth starts to ache a bit to remind me of reality.
How can I go on with this? I mean, if that dentist visit was already torturous because of the physical pain and all that other pain, can I really endure another visit that will probably be more painful, and also completely life-changing?
How do you eat without teeth, especially if you have to wait for swelling to go down, so you can't even use dentures to chew? Do you have to just eat foods that do not require chewing, like mashed potatoes or soups?
How painful will it be to have a mouth full of wounds instead of teeth? Would it be actually better to let the tooth fall off on their own?
No wonder I have had many nightmares about all my teeth falling off - now that's becoming a reality. I would rather have my toes cut off or maybe some kind of leg problem that forces me to use a cain for the rest of my life. But losing all my teeth..?
From what I have read from this forum, they pull all (or most) of them in one go, in one side (upper or lower), and the next appointment do the rest?
The dentist says there might be 'salvageable' teeth that do not need to be pulled..
So is the denture made so it fits snugly around those tooth? What if you have to use a temporary denture, how does that work?
I have so many questions, such shockingly bad news is pretty hard to take, when all you want is a single tooth pain to go away.
In any case, I guess nothing will be done before january, unless I get another 'acute pain' tooth before that, and then that one might have to be pulled.
My future does not look bright, when I have to be fearful of my tooth all the time now.
How can ever enjoy anything else, just focus completely on something, with this on my mind? How do people cope with this psychologically? I sure can't understand why this is happening, or how to cope, or even what to do. Would it really be more painful to just do nothing about it and let the teeth fall on their own?
I don't know, I am desperate, I am trying to consider all options and possibilities. In all possbile ways, this feels like the end of the road, end of my life, end of anything good I could do, achieve or experience in life anymore. How can I enjoy anything or feel joy or have fun with this pain in my future?
And is there a life afterwards? Also, how the heck can I endure the pain and waiting and swelling and not eating and feeling like a freak because I have no teeth left?
No wonder older people are always proud, if they can say 'I still have all my own teeth'. Now I understand that completely. To not even reach 50 yet and lose all teeth.. I know it has happened to younger people as well, but it's just so stopping.
It's like all and any flow I might have had in life just stopped completely, and there's nothing left in life but just a huge shock and crisis. This year has been so awful for me already anyway in numerous other ways, and now this. A lifestopper.
I remember older men, the grandfather type, in my childhood, showing kids their dentures, and it was a shocking and scary, but also a bit funny thing back then. I had no idea what psychological implications 'dentures' have. Now I am not a kid anymore, I will be that balding weird old man, scaring people with their dentures just to clown around.
Food supposedly tastes different.. is it better or worse?
Do you have to 'clean' those holes left by the teeth somehow? How do the dentures stay in place? Why are lower dentures harder to use, you'd think gravity would help?
I wonder how much this would end up costing me moneywise, and most importantly, pain-wise. The psychological impact is also enormous. How do you kiss with dentures? Let alone the french version..?
I hope I am not offending anyone that went through this and has dentures now as their normal life. This is just so depressing, like an end of an era, or end of my whole life.
How do you still enjoy life or other things? Can you still read a book, watch a movie, or have a conversation and not think about the situation? Oh goodness, I just realized.. do I have to 'learn to talk' all over again?
Is it possible to do 'beatboxing' with dentures? This may sound stupid, but I like to create things, so I am used to making 'weird sounds' with my mouth sometimes, and mimicing instruments for my music sometimes (just for the fun of it), would all this even be possible anymore?
How did you people cope, that had all or most teeth pulled out, was it expensive, how long did it take to get used to dentures instead of teeth, how many visits to the dentist, how many complications, how do you eat food without dentures or teeth, how many teeth do they pull at one visitation?
I just want to scream and stop existing right now, I don't know what to do, I am thinking desperate thoughts, maybe I could escape this situation somehow, maybe I can just let the teeth rot and see what that's like.. although if this one tooth's painful reactions are preview of what's to come, that would be unbearable anquish and pain.
I have never been in a scarier situation before, I don't know what to do or what not to do... I am planning on not doing much today, and starting to do the whole 'use this liquid two times a day' stuff tomorrow. I think the purpose is to heal the gum disease so in January, my teeth can be pulled out. If I last that long with this one tooth without having it pulled out (possibly the only way to get rid of the pain, but I am still unsure of what they will do to the 'empty hole' - he talked about prothesis of some kind, so maybe a more 'permanent prothesis' instead of denture).
Paying a small fortune to someone for pulling off your tooth is like paying a gangster to stab you, it doesn't seem to make sense.
I might sound a bit weird in this post, but I am kind of panicking, I am confused, I am shocked, horrified, and don't really know what to do or what direction to try to take anything anymore. It really feels like my life just ended, and the only thing left is a lot of torture, pain and money loss.
Any kind of perspective, sympathy/empathy, help, suggestions, wisdom, experience-sharing, advice, 'what-to-expect', information, guiding, etc. would be greatly appreciated - life has treated me pretty bad before, but never THIS shockingly horribly.
I really want to know if there's life after losing all (or most) teeth.
(I am also worried, I might not be able to do the required procedures every day - the dentist told me to floss (never done that in my life! wouldn't even know how), to brush two times a day, and then to use that liquid thing - how am I supposed to do all that -every- day? I am not a systematic individual, some days I just can't do this kind of things, and I don't have that kind of energy to devote to a project that has the end result of 'losing all my teeth'.)